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. >> nevada. >> nevada. close but to dean heller. >> all right. next one? >> ohio. it's closed up but brown wins. >> does he outperform the president by what, two points? >> i don't know. >> yeah, yeah. >> if you were to guess, it's going to be a tight race? >> florida, nelson beats mak. then we get to virginia. >> where are you there? >> i guess i would give kane maybe a tiny finger on the scale. >> give it to blue? >> i don't know. >> we'll put it there for now. that gets us through the presidential toss-ups. let's go to the red states if you will. these are a ton of great states. >> flake wins. >> montana, that's scary. everybody, both sides say it's really too close. >> the libtarian candidate is going to make the winning number. >> it could. >> i guess he gets a couple. this guy john tester up a point or two and the question is does that save him? let's do edge tester. >> all right. next one? north dakota right next door. >> berg wins. it's very very close. >> the same way you feel about montana. >> yeah. >> not quite as close. >> yeah. >> let's stick in the re
. >> nevada. >> nevada. close but to dean heller. >> all right. next one? >> ohio. it's closed up but brown wins. >> does he outperform the president by what, two points? >> i don't know. >> yeah, yeah. >> if you were to guess, it's going to be a tight race? >> florida, nelson beats mak. then we get to virginia. >> where are you there? >> i guess i would give kane maybe a tiny finger on the scale. >> give it to blue?...
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he's spending a bunch of time in the firewall states like nevada and wisconsin and iowa. that's the way that he holds on even if romney somehow runs the table in florida, virginia, and ohio. if he can hold those other states, he can still win. >> chuck, you go along with that? >> i do. >> we need virginia and florida? >> i have been trying -- the sunday romney schedule had been in the dark. they had set it up. here is the sunday schedule. we just got it. iowa, ohio, pennsylvania, and virginia. now -- >> pennsylvania, they got a chance there? yes. is it likely? >> feels like they're looking for more paths and more opportunities. they basically failed to expand the map early. they're hoping maybe hope upon hope that they steal a state late, that somehow they could scramble the whole thing up with pennsylvania. the fact is they're close in pennsylvania, but it's lucy and the football close. >> there's a lot of work to be done by the democrats in southeastern pennsylvania. >> they do have work to do in western pennsylvania. there's a whole bunch of democratic -- your friend m
he's spending a bunch of time in the firewall states like nevada and wisconsin and iowa. that's the way that he holds on even if romney somehow runs the table in florida, virginia, and ohio. if he can hold those other states, he can still win. >> chuck, you go along with that? >> i do. >> we need virginia and florida? >> i have been trying -- the sunday romney schedule had been in the dark. they had set it up. here is the sunday schedule. we just got it. iowa, ohio,...
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now have it, which is in those eight states, ones we know, florida, new hampshire, iowa, virginia, nevada, colorado, new hampshire, i think ohio belongs in that group. i put it on myself i should have put it in there a few days before now. >> mark halperin, take a look at nbc news poll, iowa, president up but wisconsin and new hampshire, we're talking about a really closely fought race. >> based on the totality of the public and private polling the only us in is on governor romney to depp street get to 270 electoral votes. i think governor romney starts with a challenge which is florida, north carolina, and colorado. if he can win those three, and i think he's got a decent chance in all, although the president hasn't given up on colorado and florida, then he needs to find a couple other -- a couple of options, one is to just win ohio. if he can't win ohio, and virginia also, he needs to win virginia also, okay, if he can't win ohio he needs to find another way. states of the three polls you showed as well as pennsylvania, michigan, he needs to offset a loss in ohio. ohio's the simplest an
now have it, which is in those eight states, ones we know, florida, new hampshire, iowa, virginia, nevada, colorado, new hampshire, i think ohio belongs in that group. i put it on myself i should have put it in there a few days before now. >> mark halperin, take a look at nbc news poll, iowa, president up but wisconsin and new hampshire, we're talking about a really closely fought race. >> based on the totality of the public and private polling the only us in is on governor romney...
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he's not going back to nevada. he's not going back to iowa. and he's not going to pennsylvania again. which is significant because the obama campaign in the end didn't take the bait on pennsylvania. they are sending bill clinton there, but they are not sending the president there. >> what hasn't bill clinton done for barack obama? >> he was obama's great explainer. he was the obama whisperer in charlotte. and he's been a good friend and increasingly somebody that the president relies on. if the president wins re-election. i'm convinced that bill clinton's next job will be to help the president sell a budget deal to democrats who may not want to go along. that's almost a tougher job than getting the president reelected. >> are you worried about the voter suppression that is taking place in ohio? it seems to be much more intense in ohio. much more organized, county to county, it looks like they have really done a job. the numbers are down. there they are off from 2008. >> cuyahoga county, we're talking about cleveland. democrats need a big turno
he's not going back to nevada. he's not going back to iowa. and he's not going to pennsylvania again. which is significant because the obama campaign in the end didn't take the bait on pennsylvania. they are sending bill clinton there, but they are not sending the president there. >> what hasn't bill clinton done for barack obama? >> he was obama's great explainer. he was the obama whisperer in charlotte. and he's been a good friend and increasingly somebody that the president...
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ahead in other key states, including new hampshire, be virginia, florida, wisconsin, colorado, and nevada. and today, a major endorsement coming from new york city's independent mayor michael bloomberg. no question, this is a close race but today in wisconsin the president went after one of the key points in governor romney's closing argument to voters. >> the closing weeks of this campaign, governor romney has been using all his talents as a salesman to dress up these very same policies that failed our country so badly. and he is offering them change. he's saying he's the candidate of change. well, let me tell you, wisconsin, we know what change looks like. and what the governor is offering sure ain't change. >> it sure ain't change. but governor romney is good at changing on every position and doing anything to win. on the trail, he's trying to sound warm and cuddly. he's now taking a soft attack. the new york times quoting him on the trail as saying, democrats love america, too. gee, governor. thanks for that. but that soft attack apparently ends there. because behind the scenes, repub
ahead in other key states, including new hampshire, be virginia, florida, wisconsin, colorado, and nevada. and today, a major endorsement coming from new york city's independent mayor michael bloomberg. no question, this is a close race but today in wisconsin the president went after one of the key points in governor romney's closing argument to voters. >> the closing weeks of this campaign, governor romney has been using all his talents as a salesman to dress up these very same policies...
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it's their nevada backup and vice versa, if one slips, they want to be able to hold up there. but i'm fascinated by also what romney's done in adding this pennsylvania on sunday. is it a sign of strength, or is it potentially a sign of weakness? is it oh, wait a minute, i'm missing -- is this sort of an on-side kick, hoping you recover it and you've still got to throw the bomb because if you pick off pennsylvania, then you don't have to worry about ohio anymore. and how much of this pennsylvania stop is about that versus a sign of strength? so to me, these candidates' schedules say a lot. the fact that he's spending one less event in ohio and deciding somehow one event in pennsylvania might make a difference, i think it says a lot about where they think ohio is. >> lawrence, if you look at the preponderance of public polls, it matches with what the obama campaign says. small but durable leads. what's the best case if you're the romney campaign from their point of view? say romney can win, what would the public polls and the obama campaign be missing? >> just an overall -- what
it's their nevada backup and vice versa, if one slips, they want to be able to hold up there. but i'm fascinated by also what romney's done in adding this pennsylvania on sunday. is it a sign of strength, or is it potentially a sign of weakness? is it oh, wait a minute, i'm missing -- is this sort of an on-side kick, hoping you recover it and you've still got to throw the bomb because if you pick off pennsylvania, then you don't have to worry about ohio anymore. and how much of this...
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no north carolina, nevada once. but they believe they can lose colorado. they can lose florida, but their firewall is wisconsin, iowa and ohio. and that if they hold two of those three, then their path to 270 is doable, and romney becomes very steep. i think when you look at it, it's about wisconsin, then peeling that off. and they've got to figure out how to win -- how to get ohio. if iowa's not there, if neither iowa nor nevada are there, then you've got to either go get new hampshire for romney, if you will, combine it with wisconsin, but you still, i think, have to grab ohio. >> wow, okay. and right now ohio is probably where the romney campaign, we mentioned earlier, they're all headed there. they're doubling down. can they regain, keep that momentum going, chuck, or even ezra at this point when you're looking at ohio and campaign strategy, what at this point given the fact that the president is sort of in the middle of this news story and catastrophe, national disaster, how do they even compete? >> at this point, it's all turnout is my view of the ra
no north carolina, nevada once. but they believe they can lose colorado. they can lose florida, but their firewall is wisconsin, iowa and ohio. and that if they hold two of those three, then their path to 270 is doable, and romney becomes very steep. i think when you look at it, it's about wisconsin, then peeling that off. and they've got to figure out how to win -- how to get ohio. if iowa's not there, if neither iowa nor nevada are there, then you've got to either go get new hampshire for...
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i think we're going to win iowa, i think we're going to win wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> good morning. look at that, how beautiful. we are here. we are here. what are we, a day away? this is so exciting. good morning, everyone. >> he said it wasn't going to be close. and then he said it was going to be close. maybe he was talking about president clinton. >> it's monday, november 5th, the day before election day. we have with us mike barnicle, senior political analyst, mark halperin, willie's just walked in. i don't know why you're laughing. >> me? >> no, mike. >> this lighting is disturbing. i don't know who did it. i don't like it. i'm just going to say that right up front. but i'm happy this weekend -- today because this weekend there was a huge sporting event that all the world tuned to. and i can tell you i've never been more proud of the vanderbilt commodores, dudley stadium. >> no, they went on the road and did that. they went to kentucky, to co
i think we're going to win iowa, i think we're going to win wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> good morning. look at that, how beautiful. we are here. we are here. what are we, a day away? this is so exciting. good morning, everyone. >> he said it wasn't going to be close. and then he said it was going to be close. maybe he was talking about president clinton....
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in only one of those races, in nevada, did the republican candidate prevail. rove's awful election night proved that you can't buy momentum or create it simply by decreeing it and that there's a boundary to what bluster accomplishes. the road he zoomed down in 2012 was toward a potentially diminished place in his party. john heilemann, go ahead. do you agree? >> well, there's -- >> what? say it! >> there's just a lot to say -- >> why do you have a problem with this? >> no, there's a lot to say about karl. i think in the senate races, look. karl did not choose the candidates in the senate races across the country. the outside groups that went into these congressional races, you're kind of stuck with who you've got. you didn't pick todd akin, richard mourdock, he didn't run the campaign of george allen in virginia. he's an independent expenditure. on some level those campaigns, you know, he could go in and try to provide air support, but you're not the strategist for those campaigns. you don't pick the candidate. the presidential race, there's no question this p
in only one of those races, in nevada, did the republican candidate prevail. rove's awful election night proved that you can't buy momentum or create it simply by decreeing it and that there's a boundary to what bluster accomplishes. the road he zoomed down in 2012 was toward a potentially diminished place in his party. john heilemann, go ahead. do you agree? >> well, there's -- >> what? say it! >> there's just a lot to say -- >> why do you have a problem with this?...